5.5 Inventory: details of a boat

Boat details (n°303)

BAH-4

Essentials

Designer

Alfred Edward "Bill" Luders Jr. (USA)

Builder

Oscar Schelin, Kungsörs Båtvarv AB (SWE)

Material

Mahogany, carvel planked

1st certificate issued

05-03-1963

Original boat name

John B III

Original country

BAH

Original sail number

Current location

Haapsalu, Baltic Sea (EST)

5.5 SWE 48 - shiny looks : Ready to race
(credits : Sven-Ake)
Added by Kaspar Stubenrauch
on 2020-10-04

Photo Gallery (17)

Notes (14)

SWE 48 Tomatwo

22-01-2024

by J Busch

by J Busch, 22-01-2024

The name is spellt Tomatwo according to certificate from 1971 when Nathorst became the owner.

5.5 SWE 48 - Estland next

17-12-2020

by Kaspar Stubenrauch

by Kaspar Stubenrauch, 17-12-2020

The boat has changed hands and will in future be sailing in Estland.

5.5 SWE 48

12-10-2012

by Kaspar Stubenrauch

by Kaspar Stubenrauch, 12-10-2012

The boat is going through a complete restoration, preparing her for a future race life, hopefully soon meeting with her 1964 Olympic competitors. Those, whose location is known are these:

GER 12 - Lake of Starnberg
GER 18 (ex NOR 27) - Lake of Constance
GER 64 (ex SWE 37) - Lake of Starnberg
ITA 42 - La Spezia
GER 28 (ex FIN 24)- Flensburg
AUS 14 - Sydney
USA 71 (ex DEN 11) - New York
SUI 45 - Lake of Geneva

Who has info on these missing boats?
JPN 1
MEX 1
RUS 1
GBR 12
CAN 58
USA 50

We do plan to rejoin all of them in 2014 in Central Europe, for the 50th Enoshima Jubilee.

Boats name

21-05-2008

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist, 21-05-2008

The boat has the original name John B III, not Tomatoe

Material

07-04-2008

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist, 07-04-2008

classic mahogany planking

Current location

07-04-2008

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist, 07-04-2008

Köping Sweden

Ownership history

07-04-2008

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist

by Sven-Åke Lagerkvist, 07-04-2008

Swe-048 Göran Uggla 1979 - 1991 "Strix"
Swe-048 K-G Olsson 1991 - 2008 "Strix"
Swe-048 Sven-Åke Lagerkvist 2008- "John B3"

Information

05-04-2008

by Matti Muoniovaara

by Matti Muoniovaara, 05-04-2008

This is Luders hull #1026 and L5.5 #23

Yeoman IV K-4 and BA-4

05-04-2008

by Matti Muoniovaara

by Matti Muoniovaara, 05-04-2008

Boats named Yeoman (numbers IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, X, XII and XV were 5.5s, last number is IXX) were owned by the Aisher family in Great Britain.
Yeoman IV was designed by Charles Arthur Nicholson and built by Camper & Nicholson 1952 (C&N building #789).
This boat has never been in the Bahamas. In Helsinki Olympics it had first British sail letters K-4 and Bobby Symonette as skipper. In the final entry list sail letters were BA-4 and crew was Donald Carlton Pritchard (helmsman), Basil Herbert McKinney (Gavin's uncle), Basil Kelly and Godfrey Walter Higgs.

Note by Jens Busch posted 19.02.2008 "This is S 48"

30-03-2008

by Site Administrator

by Site Administrator, 30-03-2008

The John B built by Kungsör in 1963 was sold to Sweden in the mid 60-ies to Tomas-Bertel Nathorst and was named Tomatoe, S48. Symonette was the first owner, but he certainly was not the owner later than 1967, when he got his new boat (or was there yet another John B between 1963 and 1967? My owner record implicates that: Symonette 63–?, Nathorst ?-ca 67, Sandberg ca 67-73, Busch 73-79, Uggla 79-?)

Complementary reconstituted notes...

30-03-2008

by Sebastien Schmidt

by Sebastien Schmidt, 30-03-2008

According to Matti, "John BIII" (BAH-004b) is Luders design #1026.
According to Kaspar, she became SWE-048 ?

9th/15 at the XVIII Olympics 1964 Tokyo

29-03-2008

by Sebastien Schmidt

by Sebastien Schmidt, 29-03-2008

9th/15 at the XVIII Olympics 1964 Tokyo, Japan, Robert Hallam Symonette, George Leroy F., Percival Andrew Knowles, John B 3, BA-1, Alfred E. Luders Jr. 1963, 9-13-11-3-3-10-10, 2713p.

Yes, this boat will stay "John B3"...

29-03-2008

by Sebastien Schmidt

by Sebastien Schmidt, 29-03-2008

...and it will be renamed BAH-004b as soon as the website would allow to consider double-numbers to clarify such messy situations with the extensions a, b, c, etc. At this time we would be able to complete more precisely the story...
In the mean time, "Yeoman IV" has been moved to GBR-004 (see http://5.5inventory.org/GBR/004/) and will wear BAH-004a ID as well.

May be not an original boat ?

10-02-2008

by Site Administrator

by Site Administrator, 10-02-2008

The name Yeoman is normally to Australian boats. The only source we have is the following olympic results : 15th/16 at the XV Olympics 1952 Helsinki, R.H. Symonette Yeoman BA-4 15-12-13-9-12-16-10 1428

Document library (4)

Document

Size

By / When

Certifikat of Rating
Original Certifikat of Raiting for John B III

733 Kb

Sven-Åke
Lagerkvist
25-08-2008

Certificate of rating
With signature Torsten Gustafsson

1.5 Mb

2 Mb

J
Busch
22-01-2024

Certificate
First swedish cert, signed Ljungström

1.23 Mb

1 Mb

J
Busch
22-01-2024

Certificate
Second swedish cert, G LLoyd

390 Kb

J
Busch
22-01-2024

5.5 SWE 48 - shiny looks : Ready to race
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Added by Kaspar Stubenrauch on 2020-10-04

Ownership history (7)

Sail#

Name

Owner

BAH-4

"John B3"

Robert H. Symonette (1963-1967)

SWE-48

"Tomatoe"

Thomas B. Nathorst (1967-?)

SWE-48

"Laremi"

Emil Sandberg (1967-1973)

SWE-48

"Laremi"

Jens Busch (1973-1979)

SWE-48

"Strix"

Göran Uggla (1979-1991)

SWE-48

"Strix"

K-G Olsson (1991-2008)

SWE-48

"John B3"

Sven-Åke Lagerkvist (2008-?)

Results History (14)

Year

Rank

Race / Location

Skipper

Added by, on

Year : 1963

Rank : 10/34 (5-1

Race : 3rd World Championship /
Location : Seawanhaka Corinthian YC, Oyster Bay, Long Island, USA

Skipper : Robert Hallam Symonette